Etherion; a balanced community, ideas for a solid, viable, financial structure ... another montyp1blog ...
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Etherion; a balanced community, ideas for a solid, viable, financial structure ... another montyp1blog ...
montyp1 Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:23 am
Just a test run, to see why it sometimes pinches my text, and throws it into the 'ether' ...!!!
....those 'bloody' hungry ETHERIONITES!!!!!
Aha, aha, that's how you edit...I'm typing as fast as my two little (sorry, big) fingers will allow gigi (hi amigo), and I will post later tonight, I promise..
...and as promised, but it's not finished yet ...
Etherion, a balanced community, … notes on a proposed viable financial structure
….comments are invited, …. please, …. pretty please,
………pretty please, with cream and hundreds-n-thousands on top …
1734 acres (or 701 ha) has been purchased in a rural location approx. 44 kms WNW of Guyra by a private company, with George and Christine as directors.
It is proposed that privately leased residential dwelling sites (min 2000m2/ 0.5 acres) will be made available to paid up members of the Etherion Community in 2, or 3 share offers [details in note (a) below]
Community Membership is gained by completing (and having accepted) an Application Form (currently in draft format, see separate post) and paying a fee of $500.00 initially and then maintaining payment of $150.00 p.a. (this may lower to $125.00, or $100.00 p.a.within 2 yrs.)
[Note (a): Privately Leased Areas (PLA’s):
It is proposed that leases be granted on purchase of a minimum no. of Shares, as follows;
Share One Offer (approx. Nov. 30 2008)
2,000m2 ……….. 4 x $2,000.00 shares … ($8,000.00)
4,000m2..........6 x $2,000.00 shares … ($12,000.00)
6,000m2 ........ 9 x $2,000.00 shares … ($18,000.00)
All sites will be separated by a Fire Buffer Zone (FBZ) of approx. 10m, on which no traffic obstruction may be placed.]
These leases are given for an initial period of 25 yrs. and are very similar to standard [commercial] business leases. There are two further 25 yr. lease periods made available at the option of the ‘lessee’, subject to compliancy with current Community Rules and Regulations [see separate note (b) below] at the time each successive lease is entered into.
An Annual Levy will be payable for maintenance and outgoing costs, and will be indexed to the requirements of the Community and set by the Council elected from Members of the Community [details in note (c) below].
Initially this is set at $1,500.00 p.a.
Share Offer One will comprise 15 sites with a ‘mix’ of covenants applying to the various locations; initially these are
(i) … ‘Commercial Corner’ ... cluster/2
(ii) …’Homestead Plateau’ ... cluster/1
(iii) …’Juan Carlos Valley ... cluster/3
(iv) ... 'Monte Carlo Valley' ... cluster/4
[see separate map pages and index for locations, plus note (d) below]
[Note (d); Examples of Covenants;
Commercially positioned sites (in cluster 2) will be allowed noise levels (from generators, power equipment, etc.) to operate from 8.00am to 6.00pm, and outside these hours subject to agreement from within the cluster dwellers.
Community Leased Dwelling Areas (CLA’s) will allow noise (as defined above) between 9.00am to 4.00pm (clusters 1, 3,4 initially, see separate map pages for locations).
There are proposals for clusters (in as yet undefined locations, possibly the SW corner) where discernible noise is not allowed past 35m from a dwelling, these are not accessible by motor vehicle and the only times chainsaws (and other machinery) will operate are times of Emergency, or required Safety Maintenance.]
The Capital raised by this First Share Offer, and subsequent offers 2, and possibly 3 (of x15 and x10, or x5, Shares respectively) will be used to fund a Building and Community Development Program concentrating on providing up to 20 (6 + 6 + 4 +4) Community Owned Rental Housing Units (CHU’s), each on a 2,000 m2 site.
These will have shared access to laundry facilities, grey water recycling, and power generation (solar / wind / with diesel gen’tr back-up) so as to keep building costs and rental charges as low as possible. Buildings will be designed around a semi-unified style / process to maximize construction efficiencies and minimize costs (initial and ongoing). Costs for Rental are still being determined.
These will be available to Community members on a Secure Lease (SL / min. 2 yr. period) and a Non Secure Lease (NSL / monthly, or up to 2 yr period). Rental costs will be set depending on the type and duration of the rental contract. Rental cost will cover the annual land levy cost (payable by PLA’s) , maintenance and building costs, a levy to an insurance fund [ to cover rent during sickness / see note (e) below], annual Community Membership fees, plus other general development levies, but will be indexed to the income of the Members, and their ‘family situation’
(….ed. note 1, if you think this is a ’grey area’ …you’re right, and we’re working on it)
In addition a Rental Reduction Subsidy (RRS) may be applied for, to allow a 'rental reduction', depending on the particular circumstances of the Member (and / or their family). All applications for this RRS will be considered on an individual basis. Any interested Member is encouraged to seek more information and clarification of the guidelines determining elegibility (ed note 2 …post us a note on this forum, that’s what it’s here for …!).
In addition to these 50-60 residential sites it is proposed we create specific Common Ownership Leasehold Plots (COLP’s) within the site for ‘agri-based’ commercial crop production, and also Community Owned Food Production Plots (COFP’s). These later ‘food-gardens’ will be available for Members' use where their own site is not suitable for a particular type of food needed.
Thus there is the possibility of a ‘mix’ of community and private endeavour in the utilization of the available arable land.This will we hope allow an evolution process to occur, and will highlight the individual strengths, abilities and talents of the members.
Leases of these COLP’s will be for a minimum of 1 yr. and a maximum of 3 yrs., however variations and sub-leases will be available and initially terms (rental costs) will be very negotiable.
Costs are, again, still being calculated since much of the land is still being evaluated in terms of its soil quality (first soil report is in, others are in the ‘pipeline’) and the suitability of existing farm fencing.
Water distribution via ‘swale channels’ is being considered as part of an overall design for water management. Several registrations of interest have been taken from suitably qualified horticulture design groups.
We are still interested in contact from specialist permaculture designers and suggest you log in your contact details if you are interested.
A Community Centre is proposed near to the existing ‘farm house / homestead’, where there are significant open areas to accommodate the ‘large’ numbers of visitors we hope to attract.
[ed note; we may not get any work done if the parties we’re planning all happen]
Features will include both outside and undercover stage areas, scenery and costume storage areas, gardens with children’s play grounds, cascading water pools, ….and,
(so the adults won’t feel any discrimination) ..... there will be an ‘adults play area’, .....
[ed note; …think flying-fox rides, and rope tunnels with long deep mud pits underneath .. see separate note 5]
In the next stage of development graded road access (to suit standard two wheel drive motor vehicles) will be provided to the areas at ‘Monte-Carlo Valley’ and ‘Piston-Post Yards’ and it’s envisioned that these areas will include both ‘noise-allowable’ and ‘noise-free’ house sites.
These areas are toward the middle of the property where significant patches of treed country exists containing abundant wildlife. There are also river gorges with large rock outcrops and we propose to mark out an area in this region where all ‘human’ activity is to be kept to an absolute minimum
[…ed note; a picnic lunch in a wicker basket is OK, but watch out if you’re wearing a red bonnet]
All applications for Membership to the Etherion Community will include a fully completed questionnaire (in the Application Form), and will be considered by a panel set up from existing Members by the Council of Members.
A condition to membership is the successful completion of a Probationary Membership period.
This is set before any payment is accepted and ranges initially from 3 months to 2 yrs.
This period can be extended by a process that includes meetings between the prospective Full Member and a Policy /Guidelines Member (or Members) but only with unanimous agreement between this group.
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....those 'bloody' hungry ETHERIONITES!!!!!
Aha, aha, that's how you edit...I'm typing as fast as my two little (sorry, big) fingers will allow gigi (hi amigo), and I will post later tonight, I promise..
...and as promised, but it's not finished yet ...
Etherion, a balanced community, … notes on a proposed viable financial structure
….comments are invited, …. please, …. pretty please,
………pretty please, with cream and hundreds-n-thousands on top …
1734 acres (or 701 ha) has been purchased in a rural location approx. 44 kms WNW of Guyra by a private company, with George and Christine as directors.
It is proposed that privately leased residential dwelling sites (min 2000m2/ 0.5 acres) will be made available to paid up members of the Etherion Community in 2, or 3 share offers [details in note (a) below]
Community Membership is gained by completing (and having accepted) an Application Form (currently in draft format, see separate post) and paying a fee of $500.00 initially and then maintaining payment of $150.00 p.a. (this may lower to $125.00, or $100.00 p.a.within 2 yrs.)
[Note (a): Privately Leased Areas (PLA’s):
It is proposed that leases be granted on purchase of a minimum no. of Shares, as follows;
Share One Offer (approx. Nov. 30 2008)
2,000m2 ……….. 4 x $2,000.00 shares … ($8,000.00)
4,000m2..........6 x $2,000.00 shares … ($12,000.00)
6,000m2 ........ 9 x $2,000.00 shares … ($18,000.00)
All sites will be separated by a Fire Buffer Zone (FBZ) of approx. 10m, on which no traffic obstruction may be placed.]
These leases are given for an initial period of 25 yrs. and are very similar to standard [commercial] business leases. There are two further 25 yr. lease periods made available at the option of the ‘lessee’, subject to compliancy with current Community Rules and Regulations [see separate note (b) below] at the time each successive lease is entered into.
An Annual Levy will be payable for maintenance and outgoing costs, and will be indexed to the requirements of the Community and set by the Council elected from Members of the Community [details in note (c) below].
Initially this is set at $1,500.00 p.a.
Share Offer One will comprise 15 sites with a ‘mix’ of covenants applying to the various locations; initially these are
(i) … ‘Commercial Corner’ ... cluster/2
(ii) …’Homestead Plateau’ ... cluster/1
(iii) …’Juan Carlos Valley ... cluster/3
(iv) ... 'Monte Carlo Valley' ... cluster/4
[see separate map pages and index for locations, plus note (d) below]
[Note (d); Examples of Covenants;
Commercially positioned sites (in cluster 2) will be allowed noise levels (from generators, power equipment, etc.) to operate from 8.00am to 6.00pm, and outside these hours subject to agreement from within the cluster dwellers.
Community Leased Dwelling Areas (CLA’s) will allow noise (as defined above) between 9.00am to 4.00pm (clusters 1, 3,4 initially, see separate map pages for locations).
There are proposals for clusters (in as yet undefined locations, possibly the SW corner) where discernible noise is not allowed past 35m from a dwelling, these are not accessible by motor vehicle and the only times chainsaws (and other machinery) will operate are times of Emergency, or required Safety Maintenance.]
The Capital raised by this First Share Offer, and subsequent offers 2, and possibly 3 (of x15 and x10, or x5, Shares respectively) will be used to fund a Building and Community Development Program concentrating on providing up to 20 (6 + 6 + 4 +4) Community Owned Rental Housing Units (CHU’s), each on a 2,000 m2 site.
These will have shared access to laundry facilities, grey water recycling, and power generation (solar / wind / with diesel gen’tr back-up) so as to keep building costs and rental charges as low as possible. Buildings will be designed around a semi-unified style / process to maximize construction efficiencies and minimize costs (initial and ongoing). Costs for Rental are still being determined.
These will be available to Community members on a Secure Lease (SL / min. 2 yr. period) and a Non Secure Lease (NSL / monthly, or up to 2 yr period). Rental costs will be set depending on the type and duration of the rental contract. Rental cost will cover the annual land levy cost (payable by PLA’s) , maintenance and building costs, a levy to an insurance fund [ to cover rent during sickness / see note (e) below], annual Community Membership fees, plus other general development levies, but will be indexed to the income of the Members, and their ‘family situation’
(….ed. note 1, if you think this is a ’grey area’ …you’re right, and we’re working on it)
In addition a Rental Reduction Subsidy (RRS) may be applied for, to allow a 'rental reduction', depending on the particular circumstances of the Member (and / or their family). All applications for this RRS will be considered on an individual basis. Any interested Member is encouraged to seek more information and clarification of the guidelines determining elegibility (ed note 2 …post us a note on this forum, that’s what it’s here for …!).
In addition to these 50-60 residential sites it is proposed we create specific Common Ownership Leasehold Plots (COLP’s) within the site for ‘agri-based’ commercial crop production, and also Community Owned Food Production Plots (COFP’s). These later ‘food-gardens’ will be available for Members' use where their own site is not suitable for a particular type of food needed.
Thus there is the possibility of a ‘mix’ of community and private endeavour in the utilization of the available arable land.This will we hope allow an evolution process to occur, and will highlight the individual strengths, abilities and talents of the members.
Leases of these COLP’s will be for a minimum of 1 yr. and a maximum of 3 yrs., however variations and sub-leases will be available and initially terms (rental costs) will be very negotiable.
Costs are, again, still being calculated since much of the land is still being evaluated in terms of its soil quality (first soil report is in, others are in the ‘pipeline’) and the suitability of existing farm fencing.
Water distribution via ‘swale channels’ is being considered as part of an overall design for water management. Several registrations of interest have been taken from suitably qualified horticulture design groups.
We are still interested in contact from specialist permaculture designers and suggest you log in your contact details if you are interested.
A Community Centre is proposed near to the existing ‘farm house / homestead’, where there are significant open areas to accommodate the ‘large’ numbers of visitors we hope to attract.
[ed note; we may not get any work done if the parties we’re planning all happen]
Features will include both outside and undercover stage areas, scenery and costume storage areas, gardens with children’s play grounds, cascading water pools, ….and,
(so the adults won’t feel any discrimination) ..... there will be an ‘adults play area’, .....
[ed note; …think flying-fox rides, and rope tunnels with long deep mud pits underneath .. see separate note 5]
In the next stage of development graded road access (to suit standard two wheel drive motor vehicles) will be provided to the areas at ‘Monte-Carlo Valley’ and ‘Piston-Post Yards’ and it’s envisioned that these areas will include both ‘noise-allowable’ and ‘noise-free’ house sites.
These areas are toward the middle of the property where significant patches of treed country exists containing abundant wildlife. There are also river gorges with large rock outcrops and we propose to mark out an area in this region where all ‘human’ activity is to be kept to an absolute minimum
[…ed note; a picnic lunch in a wicker basket is OK, but watch out if you’re wearing a red bonnet]
All applications for Membership to the Etherion Community will include a fully completed questionnaire (in the Application Form), and will be considered by a panel set up from existing Members by the Council of Members.
A condition to membership is the successful completion of a Probationary Membership period.
This is set before any payment is accepted and ranges initially from 3 months to 2 yrs.
This period can be extended by a process that includes meetings between the prospective Full Member and a Policy /Guidelines Member (or Members) but only with unanimous agreement between this group.
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Last edited by montyp1 on Fri Aug 08, 2008 3:52 pm; edited 4 times in total
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Location : between Monbulk, Melbourne / Vic. and Guyra / N.S.W.
New implementation of Etherion financial attributes see below
Admin Sat Aug 02, 2008 12:49 pm
Hello all Etherion forum members.
These leases are given for an initial period of 25 yrs. and are very similar to standard commercial business leases. There are two further 25 yr. lease periods made available at the option of the ‘lessee’, subject to compliancy with current Community Rules and Regulations at the time each successive lease is entered into.
Costs are, again, still being calculated since much of the land is still being evaluated in terms of its soil quality (first soil report is in, others are in the ‘pipeline’) and the suitability of existing farm fencing.
Water distribution via ‘swale channels’ is being considered as part of an overall design for water management. Several registrations of interest have been taken from suitably qualified horticulture design groups.
New proposed implementation of Etherion financial attributes see below:
- A one off membership payment of $500
- A 3 year levy payment for infrastructure and maintenance plus yearly rates included @ $2500.
- Membership fee and levy fee should be between single member that lives independently or couple/family that live together.
Share offers
1st share offer of land lease per 25years = $8000 for 1 acre = 4 shares @ $2000 each.
2nd share offer of land lease per 25year = $12000 for 2acres = 6 shares@ $2000 each
3rd share offer of land lease per 25 years = $18000 for 3 acres= 9 shares @ $2000each
These leases are given for an initial period of 25 yrs. and are very similar to standard commercial business leases. There are two further 25 yr. lease periods made available at the option of the ‘lessee’, subject to compliancy with current Community Rules and Regulations at the time each successive lease is entered into.
Costs are, again, still being calculated since much of the land is still being evaluated in terms of its soil quality (first soil report is in, others are in the ‘pipeline’) and the suitability of existing farm fencing.
Water distribution via ‘swale channels’ is being considered as part of an overall design for water management. Several registrations of interest have been taken from suitably qualified horticulture design groups.
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